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		<title>by: adrian</title>
		<link>http://ana.people.vee.net/archives/2007/06/06/gimme-your-opinion-for-free/#comment-107319</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 11:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: ana</title>
		<link>http://ana.people.vee.net/archives/2007/06/06/gimme-your-opinion-for-free/#comment-107317</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 10:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Thanks everyone! I got some stellar remarks via e-mail too. I will write something more detailed on my conclusions in the chapter at a later date, but for now may I note that, not only was S. Salgado once a World Bank contractor ... but he has done some lovely work for, er, &lt;a rel=\&quot;\\\&quot;\\\\\\\&quot;nofollow\\\\\\\&quot;\\\&quot;\&quot; href=\&quot;http://ana.people.vee.net/%5C%22http://ana.people.vee.net/%5C%22http://amazonasimages.com/ad/ad_fs.html%5C%22%5C%22\&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Volvo&lt;/a&gt;.

Also, one of the things I have to keep in mind is that, for all the third-world-commodity-fetishism that Salgado and his work &lt;em&gt;definitely&lt;/em&gt; plays into, MST settlers that I talked to (i.e. not the political leaders who are more invested in the images for propaganda purposes, but people who have joined the movement and benefited from it, obtained a plot of land that has guaranteed them a secure material future that they could not locate before along with many community resources like education and health) seemed to really love the photos, they see themselves reflected in the images as heroes in a struggle, people living with passion and dignity, et cetera.

So that is another thing which will influence my analysis. As most people pointed out, the specific context for the viewer and the subject really matters in any judgement one might make.  All the more fun for me ;-).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks everyone! I got some stellar remarks via e-mail too. I will write something more detailed on my conclusions in the chapter at a later date, but for now may I note that, not only was S. Salgado once a World Bank contractor &#8230; but he has done some lovely work for, er, <a rel=\"\\\"\\\\\\\"nofollow\\\\\\\"\\\"\" href=\"http://ana.people.vee.net/%5C%22http://ana.people.vee.net/%5C%22http://amazonasimages.com/ad/ad_fs.html%5C%22%5C%22\" rel="nofollow">Volvo</a>.</p>
<p>Also, one of the things I have to keep in mind is that, for all the third-world-commodity-fetishism that Salgado and his work <em>definitely</em> plays into, MST settlers that I talked to (i.e. not the political leaders who are more invested in the images for propaganda purposes, but people who have joined the movement and benefited from it, obtained a plot of land that has guaranteed them a secure material future that they could not locate before along with many community resources like education and health) seemed to really love the photos, they see themselves reflected in the images as heroes in a struggle, people living with passion and dignity, et cetera.</p>
<p>So that is another thing which will influence my analysis. As most people pointed out, the specific context for the viewer and the subject really matters in any judgement one might make.  All the more fun for me ;-).
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		<title>by: Mr.Rocks</title>
		<link>http://ana.people.vee.net/archives/2007/06/06/gimme-your-opinion-for-free/#comment-107290</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 09:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mmmm, good point about Salgado's child looking like the portraits by Dorothea Lange and the Farm Security Administration's photographers. Is it because the subject is similar, or did the photographer frame the subject according to that previous model?

I always wondered why do people consider U.S. Government contractors (the FSO photographers) as left-wing activists... Same goes to Salgado, who is a World Bank contractor (me scratches head).

Oh, the good life the gov't grants us... http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/ppmsc/00100/00188r.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmm, good point about Salgado&#8217;s child looking like the portraits by Dorothea Lange and the Farm Security Administration&#8217;s photographers. Is it because the subject is similar, or did the photographer frame the subject according to that previous model?</p>
<p>I always wondered why do people consider U.S. Government contractors (the FSO photographers) as left-wing activists&#8230; Same goes to Salgado, who is a World Bank contractor (me scratches head).</p>
<p>Oh, the good life the gov&#8217;t grants us&#8230; <a href='http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/ppmsc/00100/00188r.jpg' rel='nofollow'>http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/ppmsc/00100/00188r.jpg</a>
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		<title>by: matrine</title>
		<link>http://ana.people.vee.net/archives/2007/06/06/gimme-your-opinion-for-free/#comment-107187</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jun 2007 01:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>ahhh adrian. welcome back to the fray, brother.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ahhh adrian. welcome back to the fray, brother.
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		<title>by: Adrian</title>
		<link>http://ana.people.vee.net/archives/2007/06/06/gimme-your-opinion-for-free/#comment-107154</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Jun 2007 23:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>There's also this interesting article on Salgado, Ann - might be of interest...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%ADchel_Salgado</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also this interesting article on Salgado, Ann - might be of interest&#8230;</p>
<p><a href='http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%ADchel_Salgado' rel='nofollow'>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%ADchel_Salgado</a>
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		<title>by: charles</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2007 20:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I feel like the first two photographs represent different instantiations of collective subjects. The first is the third world as a 'recipient' of 'humanitarian aid' (charity). The second is the third world as the site of el pueblo-- as the space where the revolutionary politics play out today, despite Western political quietism and inertia. 

Hmmm, the girl reminds me of that photo of the Pastun girl in Afghanistan which was around a while ago, and those thirties photos of the victims of the Great Depression in Europe. It, in other words, the girl as the exemplary vulnerable body (and also the potential site of communal regeneration). I feel like this is quite a standard trope in western liberal discourses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel like the first two photographs represent different instantiations of collective subjects. The first is the third world as a &#8216;recipient&#8217; of &#8216;humanitarian aid&#8217; (charity). The second is the third world as the site of el pueblo&#8211; as the space where the revolutionary politics play out today, despite Western political quietism and inertia. </p>
<p>Hmmm, the girl reminds me of that photo of the Pastun girl in Afghanistan which was around a while ago, and those thirties photos of the victims of the Great Depression in Europe. It, in other words, the girl as the exemplary vulnerable body (and also the potential site of communal regeneration). I feel like this is quite a standard trope in western liberal discourses.
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		<title>by: Alice</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jun 2007 01:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Hey Hon, 
Matrine (is that sposed to be Martine?)'s comment is very funny. I hmmmed about it for a little, thinking, is it too cynical to say &quot;just a doller a day will fund a well full of western peaodophiles for this indian village...&quot; but I see I'm not alone. I feel somewhere between western obligation, inspiration at the struggles of 'world peoples' and resentment at being trained to have those reactions- photojournalism can be so uplifting!!. I guess it would depend on the context the photos were used in too for the reaction. Hey I read this ok artical not long ago about the visual rhetoric of the migrant mother photo in New York, the link is- http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0735-0198%28200121%2920%3A1%2F2%3C37%3AVRPADP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-8 . Wait, that doesn't look helpful. Hmmm. Its like 'visual rhetoric photojournalism and democratic culture' -Robert Hariman- or somn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Hon,<br />
Matrine (is that sposed to be Martine?)&#8217;s comment is very funny. I hmmmed about it for a little, thinking, is it too cynical to say &#8220;just a doller a day will fund a well full of western peaodophiles for this indian village&#8230;&#8221; but I see I&#8217;m not alone. I feel somewhere between western obligation, inspiration at the struggles of &#8216;world peoples&#8217; and resentment at being trained to have those reactions- photojournalism can be so uplifting!!. I guess it would depend on the context the photos were used in too for the reaction. Hey I read this ok artical not long ago about the visual rhetoric of the migrant mother photo in New York, the link is- <a href='http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0735-0198%28200121%2920%3A1%2F2%3C37%3AVRPADP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-8' rel='nofollow'>http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0735-0198%28200121%2920%3A1%2F2%3C37%3AVRPADP%3E2.0.CO%3B2-8</a> . Wait, that doesn&#8217;t look helpful. Hmmm. Its like &#8216;visual rhetoric photojournalism and democratic culture&#8217; -Robert Hariman- or somn.
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		<title>by: annonymouse</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 07:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Mapplethorpe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mapplethorpe.
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		<title>by: Anna Aniston</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jun 2007 02:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think the last one looks a little like a Maplethorpe. Maybe we could get a picture of her flowerpot too?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the last one looks a little like a Maplethorpe. Maybe we could get a picture of her flowerpot too?
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		<title>by: matrine</title>
		<link>http://ana.people.vee.net/archives/2007/06/06/gimme-your-opinion-for-free/#comment-105284</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 06:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>the last one reminds me of anne geddes work. but not as good. couldn't they have dressed her up as a flowerpot or an adorable lamb or something? 
Hope this helps. 
xxx matrine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the last one reminds me of anne geddes work. but not as good. couldn&#8217;t they have dressed her up as a flowerpot or an adorable lamb or something?<br />
Hope this helps.<br />
xxx matrine
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